Retail Server Names [Archive]

Drakhon

08-07-2009, 02:30 PM

Official!

http://na.aiononline.com/en/news/serverlist.html

Many of you have been curious to learn what the names of the Aion servers will be at launch. We've listed the server names below along with their associated time zones. The servers are aligned to those time zones (e.g. affecting fortresses) so that players on the East Coast as well as those on the West Coast can have blocks of game time to play during each server's prime time. Daylight saving will apply at launch.

Before the start of preselection (which begins September 18, 2009), we will also give our fans from the Oceanic region the chance to take part in an online community poll where you can indicate what server you'd pick unofficially if you want to play with your friends and neighbors. We hope to show instant results in the poll so that you can see which server provides you the best chance to meet them.

We are going to post a similar community poll for roleplayers. We have decided not to officially tag servers as roleplaying servers and enforce specific rules on them. However, we do believe that roleplayers are an essential part of our community, and we support their initiative to claim their own unofficial roleplaying server. Aion gives you the ability to create your own chat channel, and we are already seeing a lot of roleplaying groups out there who are defining their own rules and building up their own communities. Take your time to organize your group before the poll goes live, and then pick the server that would give you the best chance to find players with the same roleplaying interests.

We are looking forward to seeing you in Atreia on one of these servers at launch!

[East] Azphel GMT-5
[East] Israphel GMT-5
[East] Lumiel GMT-5
[East] Marchutan GMT-5
[East] Triniel GMT-5
[East] Zikel GMT-5

[West] Ariel GMT-8
[West] Kaisinel GMT-8
[West] Nezekan GMT-8
[West] Siel GMT-8
[West] Vaizel GMT-8
[West] Yustiel GMT-8

Edit: They switched them around a little bit and something was wrong with some labeling previously.

Cali

09-01-2009, 03:13 PM

I am guessing we are going with the server Vaizel for OPT. We should confirm if this is true and race just so everyone is on the same game play.

Gisli

09-01-2009, 06:35 PM

There is a poll going on at aionroleplayers for an OB server. We might as well use whatever they pick. You can go register/vote over there if it matters to you which one it is.

http://www.aionroleplayers.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1213

aishrod

09-01-2009, 09:28 PM

bah doesn't look like Zikel will win lol

Gisli

09-01-2009, 10:42 PM

It doesn't really matter. And after thinking about it more, we probably won't want to be on Zikel for release anyway. I assume the servers will show up in alphabetical order, and I don't think we want to be way down the list later on.

Llyweln

09-02-2009, 02:39 AM

Or you could end up being on a server that gets merged later, like wh did.

aishrod

09-02-2009, 03:45 PM

I would hope that NCsoft doesn't over project and then ruin their game like EA/Mythic did :/

Chaelyn

09-02-2009, 05:14 PM

Too few servers is far better than too many, I agree....

Drakhon

09-02-2009, 07:42 PM

The second group of names up there are the EU CBT servers. It is unclear whether NA and EU will have overlapping server names at release, but since they don't currently, I think it's a good assumption that those 16 names (and thus the number of servers) will be split between NA and EU.

Trul

09-02-2009, 11:05 PM

I think we want to be on the most heavily populated server. Even if you have to deal with a few arsehats, its better to people to play with then none at all. From what I hear PT is rather dead from what it use to be. I don't want that to happen to us.

Gisli

09-02-2009, 11:30 PM

PT is not particularly dead as Warhammer servers go. Its the game that is dead. PT was as good a choice as we could have hoped for.

Llyweln

09-05-2009, 03:38 PM

Honestly, as far as PT is concerned, aye, twas a great choice and its still thriving albit smaller scale then in all 3 zones.

Isak

09-09-2009, 06:01 PM

I know some of you have been worried about Goon Squad, looks like they are playing Elyos. Not sure what server they are thinking, but I didn't want to dig through all 45 pages of the thread on SA.

Drakhon

09-09-2009, 09:38 PM

Official Update in OP.

aishrod

09-10-2009, 11:27 AM

Thats nice, now hopefully the RP community can pick a server soon :D

There is a poll going on here: http://aionroleplayers.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1372&start=10

Vasan

09-10-2009, 01:26 PM

Thats nice, now hopefully the RP community can pick a server soon :D

There is a poll going on here: http://aionroleplayers.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1372&start=10

[East] Lumiel GMT-5 / EST appears to be winning.

Cali

09-10-2009, 01:48 PM

I am not for going to Lumiel because it will be a low pop server.

Korasia

09-10-2009, 01:57 PM

Any server that is open at launch of the game won't be low population. I believe this to be true beacuse if you go to the login screen for hte OB servers, all but 3 are high population (last time I checked, might be more servers at high). I am not sure how many OB account there are, but there will be millions more at release which means they will all be full.

I think they are smart in keeping the server numbers to a minimum and maxing them out as opposed to having a ton of servers to begin with and then closeing them later.

Gisli

09-10-2009, 02:16 PM

Cali -- I used to think the same. But I am coming around to the conclusion that these servers will all get good population initially, and its going to be a combination of in-game community and pure chance that determines their fate down the road. I do agree that some servers look to be more likely candidates for failure. Perhaps the ones added most recently, or the ones at the end of the server list. Neither of those features apply to Lumiel or Nezekan. It is possible that Zikel might suffer down the road if servers are listed in alphabetical order. But we don't know how they will be listed, so that might not be relevant.

Eder

09-10-2009, 02:41 PM

I think we discussed it before. If you think about it, 12 servers for the whole NA is a very low number, China has 13 regions times 4-12 servers PER region.
Put it another way, even if you assume 10k people PER server ( which is extremely high, I have heard reports of 6k being bandied around ), 12 servers means only 120k people can play at release. I seriously doubt Aion only has 120k NA subscribers. I bet there will be more servers opening up at release, and THOSE will stand a good chance of being low population in a month's time.

Since they released server timezones and neglected to balance the new server timezones with existing servers, the top two servers Siel and Israphel were lumped into west coast, so a lot of the big guilds have to make a decision to move. Ariel is top contender, but Lumiel seems to be not far behind. Not sure that's a good thing, since that's also the top RP server contender.

I'm not worried about having good people to fight, in fact I have faith that the RP community will rise to the challenge as it has in Percival, Tintagel and PT (personally I didn't think the PT community was that bad, we just didn't have relics to fight for!)

My real problem is the plethora of names like Sukmyballz and Pwnjoo and Wifebeater that greeted my eyes when I logged into Nezekan :mad: Those are the sort of people I don't want to play with.

Cillbo

09-10-2009, 03:04 PM

Gisli

09-10-2009, 03:26 PM

12 servers means only 120k people can play at release.

Not quite. It means only 120k people can play at the same time. I don't know what the multiplier needs to be to have a healthy server population. And of course, people play like crazy during the first week and then moderate down. And everyone is playing during the first week, and then people start going inactive. So one really needs to be looking to have a stable population after the first month or two.

All that said, I think 12 servers can easily accomodate between 1/4 and 1/2 million people. What we don't know is how big the population will actually be. My rule of thumb is still: Mythic overestimated by a factor of 2, and an Aion server can handle aobut twice as many people. So take Mythic's peak number of servers, divide by 4, and you get a reasonable number of servers for Aion launch.

What was Mythic's peak number of US servers?

Fhuul

09-10-2009, 03:45 PM

I bet that will tame down a bit after launch when it's not just a beta toon.

I agree, there's probably no real point in wasting resources moderating them right now, and even I have a silly name because there's no real attachment to my character. Come launch I think some of that will get toned down, however it won't be as good as what we had on a real RP server.

Things seemed to be solid for a bit there, but a whole bunch of silly drama on a few servers seems to have fractured a lot of the communities that were forming. At this point I think your safest bet is to figure out who you really want to play with, then roll the dice and take your chances together on the server that fits your play times. If the launch goes well, it's a safe bet any of the "original" servers should maintain healthy populations as they add others to fill the demand.

Eder

09-10-2009, 03:47 PM

Not quite. It means only 120k people can play at the same time. I don't know what the multiplier needs to be to have a healthy server population. And of course, people play like crazy during the first week and then moderate down. And everyone is playing during the first week, and then people start going inactive. So one really needs to be looking to have a stable population after the first month or two.

Yes I realize that, but I don't think it's a stretch to believe that 120k people are going to (try to) play at the same time on release. (I heard 500k was the number sold, but that sounds a little high, i would estimate 200-300k.) It may be logical to keep the servers low to save from having to merge down the track, but can your business survive when customers are steaming from day one from not being able to use a service you just sold them?

All that said, I think 12 servers can easily accomodate between 1/4 and 1/2 million people. What we don't know is how big the population will actually be. My rule of thumb is still: Mythic overestimated by a factor of 2, and an Aion server can handle aobut twice as many people. So take Mythic's peak number of servers, divide by 4, and you get a reasonable number of servers for Aion launch.

What was Mythic's peak number of US servers?

I think warhammer had 40+ servers? But I also think you are overestimating Aion's servers handling twice the number of people. Just because the graphics don't lag due to better client coding, doesn't mean servers can calculate and service twice as many people. I've seen hundreds vs hundreds in youtube Aion videos, but we've already experienced that in DAoC, and hundreds is still a far cry from a total server population of 10k.

Anyway this is all conjecture, we shall see.

Cali

09-10-2009, 04:26 PM

"I'm not worried about having good people to fight, in fact I have faith that the RP community will rise to the challenge as it has in Percival, Tintagel and PT (personally I didn't think the PT community was that bad, we just didn't have relics to fight for!)"

I think Eder has a good point. My main concern was a large carebear pop but I believe that will not happen now.

Dall dies to much

09-10-2009, 05:16 PM

My real problem is the plethora of names like Sukmyballz and Pwnjoo and Wifebeater that greeted my eyes when I logged into Nezekan :mad: Those are the sort of people I don't want to play with.

has NCsoft come out and said anything resembling the mythic policy (granted, barely enforced) about names and/or regional chat?

otherwise this whole "unoffical" RP server is basicly a joke to start with

Korasia

09-10-2009, 06:34 PM

has NCsoft come out and said anything resembling the mythic policy (granted, barely enforced) about names and/or regional chat?

otherwise this whole "unoffical" RP server is basicly a joke to start with

I agree.

Some of those people on the Aion RP forums are just as dood-ish as the doodz on regular servers and we are never going to have a stupid-name free server.

All its going to take is a few die hard RP people complaining on general chat about regular game play to put a really bad stamp on the RP community and thus divide the server as a whole were regular people just wont want to work together with more RP types.

Drakhon

09-10-2009, 06:37 PM

Fhuul

09-10-2009, 06:47 PM

The post that I quoted states that there will be no enforcement of RP rules as there will be no official RP server(s).

I would expect offensive language to be dealt with, but they're not going to do anything about Pwnjoo.

No, but hopefully they do something about Pwnjew, Titwhore and Sextraterrestrial (the last one does make me giggle in a childish way though).

Eder

09-10-2009, 09:48 PM

No, but hopefully they do something about Pwnjew, Titwhore and Sextraterrestrial (the last one does make me giggle in a childish way though).

Yes, I'm no prude, makes me giggle too. But how seriously can you take someone with a name like that, and what sort of age group/maturity level would you peg them at?

"Hey pull another one Tit, Pwn is not oom anymore. Dammit Sex, I've told you stop breaking mez!! No Sex, not you, the other Sex."

Fhuul

09-10-2009, 10:45 PM

yes, i'm no prude, makes me giggle too. But how seriously can you take someone with a name like that, and what sort of age group/maturity level would you peg them at?

"hey pull another one tit, pwn is not oom anymore. Dammit sex, i've told you stop breaking mez!! No sex, not you, the other sex."

rofl!

Llyweln

09-11-2009, 01:06 AM

even I have a silly name
.

And even looks silly concidering he is The Real Shaft lol afro and all <g>

Cali

09-11-2009, 11:13 AM

Eder you must be named dumbtwit for grouping with them

Fhuul

09-11-2009, 02:25 PM

And even looks silly concidering he is The Real Shaft lol afro and all <g>

I'm a complicated man,
But no one understands me but my woman

Llyweln

09-11-2009, 04:51 PM

I'm a complicated man,
But no one understands me but my woman

Aye, thank the gods for Notwife.....otherwise the rest of Womankind would be totally confused <g>

Drakhon

09-11-2009, 11:17 PM

The list was changed a bit, OP updated.

Also, Ayase is working on getting information about the way the Fort schedule works from the production team to better aid in decision making.

Gisli

09-12-2009, 02:49 AM

I hope they quit switching this stuff around, because swapping servers between east and west like that is disruptive for planning.

Dankus

09-12-2009, 11:50 AM

I hope they quit switching this stuff around, because swapping servers between east and west like that is disruptive for planning.

Yeah, this and not knowing how the "timed" raids work has a tone of people worried and confused on how to plan for their guilds. Grrr.

Sentack

09-12-2009, 04:33 PM

Looks like Lumiel will be the RP server. This is an East Coast server, so I'm happy with that.

That being said, How in gods name are East Coast servers said to be lower pop then West Coast? Usually any server designated as "East Coast" tend to get flooded more rapidly then West Coast servers. UO and WoW are prime examples of this. When WoW had servers listed by time zone, the East Coast servers tended to be full before 9pm showed around. Then they took out the time zones and things evened out.

So for now, Lumiel sounds fine to me.

Gisli

09-12-2009, 06:06 PM

Sentak, where are you getting that information about Lumiel? My understanding is that we are waiting for NCSoft to open a poll that will be the decider.

I should know more tomorrow something about what some other PT guilds plan to do.

Jealousy

09-12-2009, 07:14 PM

http://www.aionroleplayers.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1372

Gisli

09-12-2009, 08:11 PM

Sorry, but that poll has been replaced. Unfortunately, it has been replaced by chaos. The general understanding, based on some communication or other, is that NCSoft would run a poll. ARP even ran a poll endorsing using the NCSoft poll as the official vehicle for a decision. But... no poll has shown up that I am aware of. That is really bad news.

In this vacuum, other entities are making decisions.

Drakhon

09-13-2009, 11:37 AM

I'm not sure why anybody thought NCSoft would be putting up a poll - I haven't seen anything from them that hinted at that.

Drakhon

09-13-2009, 11:59 AM

Supposedly a large number of Aussie Legions have decided upon Nezekan as their retail server (http://www.aionsource.com/forum/aion-discussion/50471-oceanic-community-selects-nezekan-official-unofficial-server.html).

Fhuul

09-13-2009, 12:28 PM

I'm not sure why anybody thought NCSoft would be putting up a poll - I haven't seen anything from them that hinted at that.

http://na.aiononline.com/en/news/serverlist.html 3rd paragraph in.

Drakhon

09-13-2009, 03:45 PM

Ah, somehow I missed that when reading it.

Kordine

09-14-2009, 11:31 AM

So one of my guildies told me this morning that at big vent meeting PT selected the east coast server Ziekel as it's destination. Anyone confirm that? CoR will probably run a 6 man but we may look for a bigger guild. Makes sense to me to stay with some of the friends we have made on PT.

Llyweln

09-14-2009, 11:51 AM

http://www.aionsource.com/forum/zikel-east/50931-pt-community-coming-zikel.html

Aye.......they picked it last night...

Kordine

09-14-2009, 12:12 PM

So the real impact with an East Coast server is going to be the set times for Fort battles being early in the evening for the rest of us.

Vasan

09-14-2009, 01:13 PM

http://www.aionsource.com/forum/zikel-east/50931-pt-community-coming-zikel.html

Aye.......they picked it last night...

Well, not to start anything here, but seening a few people on that thread makes me want to stay the hell out of zikel honestly.

Specifically there are some heavily factionalized leader types that will never, ever promote any broad based realm based game play.

Basically I am hearing and seening the zikel is going to be for the big guilds, what don't like other people getting in their way of their pvp.

Just cruise through that post abit to see some of the troublemakers, but I'll give you this one for free, Deehorsey.

You will need an lengthy ignore list and a stomach for people on your own side working against you if you chose this server.

Gisli

09-14-2009, 01:13 PM

Yes, Kordine. The consensus was that an East Coast server was not optimal but survivable for West Coast players, while the converse is not true. And, for whatever reasons each might have had, the vast majority of the guilds involved individually preferred an East Coast server.

Kordine

09-14-2009, 01:26 PM

East Coast could be a deal breaker for my guys. I'm not up to date on the Fort sit rep but I've been told they will be at 6 or 7 pm? So if that means there is a couple of hours window starting at that time EST then I don't see how Central, Mountain and West Coast people will make that fit.

Are the Forts only open once a day? I hope not because that is fail.

Llyweln

09-14-2009, 01:42 PM

Being a West coaster myself.......even the time things for the forts or whatever, really arent that much of a hardship. Be like the normal prime times like we have on wh honestly.

Llyweln

09-14-2009, 01:50 PM

Well, not to start anything here, but seening a few people on that thread makes me want to stay the hell out of zikel honestly.

Specifically there are some heavily factionalized leader types that will never, ever promote any broad based realm based game play.

Basically I am hearing and seening the zikel is going to be for the big guilds, what don't like other people getting in their way of their pvp.

Just cruise through that post abit to see some of the troublemakers, but I'll give you this one for free, Deehorsey.

You will need an lengthy ignore list and a stomach for people on your own side working against you if you chose this server.

I was in the vent meeting last night Vasan, and honestly, nothing could be further from the truth. Hell, even Kiamar was there, and we all know how he runs.

One of the things that was discussed was making sure that there wasnt the Realm Division and banging of heads over differences of play style. Thats one of the points of not going to the Aion Roleplayers server choice.

Preventing a Realm divide was important to just about everyone that was there. And ways to avoid it if at all possible in the server choice.

Honestly, its a new game, and until proven in-game, its best to leave pre-conceptions behind at warhammer, no?

Gisli

09-14-2009, 01:57 PM

FWIW, I will say that even people whom I've had trouble in the past dealing with in forum posts or in game, came across to me as being reasonable in the Vent meeting last night.

Llyweln

09-14-2009, 03:02 PM

Thats my whole point Gisli........we cannot bring past disagreements with us. That in itself is determental to the Realm and whatever Community that in end we go to and try to setup. Grudges have to be let go.

Vasan

09-14-2009, 03:08 PM

I do believe you both have a rather good point overall.

That said I would object to the term "preconceptions" since it's less I am pre-judging people without personal knowledge but more forming a dislike of certain players due to their prior actions and words.

Grudge is also a word I wouldn't associate with some of these players, more a certain knowledge that these people bring with them two things: drama and rancor and in offer in exchange, nothing.

People don't change, but we can try to work around them I suppose.

aishrod

09-14-2009, 03:24 PM

So the real impact with an East Coast server is going to be the set times for Fort battles being early in the evening for the rest of us.

We really don't know that yet, though I would expect them to be around 6-8pm for those not on the East coast.

Llyweln

09-14-2009, 04:01 PM

Kord, not sure if youve seen this layout yet......but it puts the times out there for server, west/east.
http://www.legionthirteenth.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/BG1.jpg

Kordine

09-14-2009, 04:07 PM

Interesting hadn't seen that before. Are those the set times for specific events? I thought NC hadn't decided on Fort times yet?

Llyweln

09-14-2009, 04:17 PM

From what I understand its a Main boss? Still confusing to me on that part. But over all time wise est works better for pst folks, a tad later in the day.....especially for those who need to unwind before melting faces :)

Gisli

09-14-2009, 04:42 PM

Those are the times for the Dredgion instance. It is sort of like a super-scenario. An instanced PvPvE "dungeon" on a timer, with signups and limited access.

We still don't know what the schedule is for fortresses. Getting this information out to the community is one of those embarrassing things that NCSoft is fumbling with in their launch preparations. Interesting that so far, their launch preparations have been nearly flawless from a technical perspective (the one big issue they have is lag from third party intermediaries, and even that seems to be coming under control). But their policies and community interactions, while well intentioned, have been rather awkward. I give them credit for getting server names out much earlier than Blizzard or Mythic did. But they have botched a lot of other community relations things over the past several days.

Here is what we know. There are windows of time when fortresses open and close. I think a "window" is about two hours. There are windows where all fortresses are invulnerable. About half of the fortresses become vulnerable during appropriate windows. The key thing we do not know is: During approximately how many hours per day is there at least one vulnerable fortress?

Kordine

09-14-2009, 04:44 PM

We are mainly a CST guild right now but since Aion ignored the middle of the country we'll have to make do. I tend to play late so I have played a lot with the West Coasters on Oster and PT.

Orged

09-14-2009, 05:08 PM

Well Vasan, you made me read it. The Mercs oh my.

Hopefully the good will far outweigh the bad.

Drakhon

09-14-2009, 06:45 PM

Here is what we know. There are windows of time when fortresses open and close. I think a "window" is about two hours. There are windows where all fortresses are invulnerable. About half of the fortresses become vulnerable during appropriate windows. The key thing we do not know is: During approximately how many hours per day is there at least one vulnerable fortress?

A "window" is exactly two hours.

I got a little data yesterday (Sunday) but then had other stuff to do and didn't get more. Italicized times are "local" to the server.

Nezekan (PDT)
1400 - 1600 PDT, 1700 - 1900 EDT: 9 Invuln, 0 Vuln
1600 - 1800 PDT, 1900 - 2100 EDT: 8 Invuln, 1 Vuln

Triniel (EDT)
1300 - 1500 PDT, 1600 - 1800 EDT: 8 Invuln, 1 Vuln
1500 - 1700 PDT, 1800 - 2000 EDT: 9 Invuln, 0 Vuln

As you can see, during their "local" 1600 - 1800 time periods, both servers had 1 Vulnerable Fort. Unfortunately, I neglected to write down which Fort was Vulnerable, but I don't believe it was the same one. If that's true, it may be that there are a set number of Vulnerable Forts for each time slot but the choice of Forts is variable.

Gisli

09-14-2009, 06:56 PM

Dankus

09-15-2009, 01:16 AM

As far as fortress timers go, here is the latest...

"The answer I've been getting so far is that we're working on getting an article fully translated outlining the times for various activities. But basically, all times will be aligned and optimized for the timezone the servers are specified as.

When I have more, I will return. Might be tomorrow, and it might be later..."

This coming from an NCWest Community Manager at Aionsorce.com

Drakhon

09-15-2009, 07:27 PM

Another data point. Last night, I looked at the Abyss map. Now we all know from Warhammer that information on maps might be incorrect. :) But what I saw was that at about 10pm (2200) Eastern on Nezekan, all forts were invulnerable. The map also said that at 11:00pm (2300) Eastern, roughly half of the forts were going to turn vulnerable.

Hmm. Well, that doesn't discount the "set number during each time slot" theory. You were in the 1800-2000 time slot (Nezekan is West), so that lines up with Triniel's numbers in the equivalent slot.

Kalagg

09-16-2009, 10:06 AM

Well Vasan, you made me read it. The Mercs oh my.

Hopefully the good will far outweigh the bad.

I laughed most of the time, I cried at how pathetic most of the folks posting were and then I left halfway through it so as not to have to poke my eyes out and hopefully salvage some IQ points.

aishrod

09-17-2009, 07:55 PM

here is a little tidbit I found on the keeps just posted by Ayase:
"The Fortress system is not scheduled at specific times every day. Fortresses have certain chances to become vulnerable at certain times all throughout the week. We specifically adjusted the peak times between the east, west and oceanic region because the wars do favor peak times (evenings and weekends)."

[ASC] Tessie

09-18-2009, 09:58 AM

Our friends in Crimson Revenge will be on the Lumiel server aswell:D

Sentack

09-18-2009, 10:11 AM

It sounds like some people are trying to push for the Phoenix Throne player to create characters on Zikel

War Alliance Thread (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293119)
Aion Source Thread (http://www.aionsource.com/forum/zikel-east/50931-pt-community-coming-zikel.html)

So the community seems split about this, and that's rather frustrating.

[ASC] Tessie

09-18-2009, 10:23 AM

I am only interested in where this alliance is going, as ASC is part of it.

Is it Lumiel?

Gisli

09-18-2009, 11:01 AM

Ravensflyte is going to Lumiel, and I understand that ASC is also going to Lumiel.

aishrod

09-18-2009, 01:29 PM

Yes, it is Lumiel. We have it on the website in 2 posts, the shoutbox and the welcome section :P

Llyweln

09-18-2009, 01:38 PM